Trobar

Eble de Saignas {PC 128}

Person

1145 - 1175...1180; not named by Rieger (1987) 1993 as a "fantôme"; contemporary of Peire d'Alvernhe (E de S is roasted in {323,11} v.61) and of Garin le Brun, who addressed one poem to him {163,1}, v.52; CC lists fo this poet: 1 tenso with Guilhem Gausmar; Audiau 1922:18n4 "l'identification d'Eble d'U avec Eble de Saignas "soutenue par Zenker (Lieder Peires von Auvergne, p.202), Jeanroy (La Tenson provençale, in A M 2:295), Pakscher et Schultz-Gora, et adoptée par Carstens, a été énergiquement combattue par Appel (Literaturblatt f. rom. Phil 19, col. 109)"; DOM Supl1 1145-1175..1180, famille des seigneurs de Saignes Cantal, [GRLMA II.1.7: 457]; Rivière 1974:8 Saignes, ch.-l. de canton près de Bort les Orgues; probablement né vers 1150; "comtour" est un titre spécifiquement méridional, sans doute importé de Catalogne; apparenté à la puissante famille des seigneurs d'Apchon (près de Riom ès Montagnes, Cantal); BEdT 1999/07/27 generazione; 2= 1150-1175; BEdT 2007-04-23 Circa l'Eble autore della tenzone PC 218,001 occorre tener presente che si tratta del sicuro contrafactum della canzone PC 375,025; non è quindi un testo anteriore alla fine del 12 sec.; BEdT 2.0 2009-04-26 identificazione: Trovatore presente nella satira PC 323,011 di Peire d'Alvergne e identificato da Pirot 1973a, seguito da Riquer 1975, p.338, nota, con un appartenente alla famiglia signorile di Saigna [Saignes], Cantal;

Attribute	Value	Notes
Troubadour Role	Joglar Text
Troubadour Role	Trobador Text	XII
Referred to by	Anthologie des troubadours {} Information	Location within Work 127 Number Location within Work 130 Number
Referred to by	Anthologie des troubadours du Cantal {} Information	Teulat 2005:54-59
Referred to by	Biographies (Chabaneau) des troubadours {} Information	Location within Work 346 Number
Referred to by	Chantarai d'aquestz trobadors {PC 323,11} Information	v. 61 Location within Work 61 Number
Referred to by	Dizionario biografico dei trovatori {} Information	DBT 167
Referred to by	Le troubadour Eble de Saignes, avec des notes sur Eble de Ventadour et Eble d'Ussel {} Information
Referred to by	Les Troubadours auvergnats Information	Rivière 1974
Referred to by	Les Troubadours cantaliens, XIIe-XIVe siècles {} Information	79-81 Location within Work 79 Number Location within Work 81 Number
Referred to by	Nueyt e iorn suy en pessamen {PC 163,1} Information	Garin lo Brun v.62 Location within Work 62 Number
Place, Origin	Saignes Text City/Commune Mauriac Text Arrondissement Saignes Text County/Canton Cantal Text Departement Auvergne Text State/Province France Text Country	Asserted by Biographies (Chabaneau) des troubadours {} Information
Number, PC	128 Number
Name, Monolithic	Eble de Saignas Text	RIALTO
Name, Monolithic	Eble de Saignes Text
Name, Monolithic	Eble de Saingna Text	MS D
Name, Monolithic	Eble de Sanha Text	Internet http://histoire-ma.chez.tiscali.fr/troubadours/Troubadour/
Name, Monolithic	Ebles de Saigna Text	Beggiato 1984:34
Name, Monolithic	Eblon de Saignas Text	{163,1}
Name, Full	{?} Text Honorific Eble Text First {?} Text Second {?} Text Ordinal de Text Particle Saignas Text Place {?} Text Epithet
Less correctly known as	Eble {PC 127} Person	/Reliability/030 PC
Date, Flourished	1145/01/01 Date/Time Beginning Date, Earliest 1145/12/31 Date/Time Beginning Date, Latest 1175/01/01 Date/Time Ending Date, Earliest 1180/12/31 Date/Time Ending Date, Latest	Asserted by Dictionnaire (Suppl 1) de l'occitan médiéval Information
Date, Birth	1145/01/01 Date/Time Earliest 1155/12/31 Date/Time Latest	Asserted by Les Troubadours auvergnats Information
Created	N'Eble, ar cauzetz la meillor {PC 128,1; PC 218,1} Information	co-creator /Reliability/090 PC Asserted by Bibliographie der Troubadours {} Information
Created	Qui vos dara respeg, Deus lo maldia {PC 127,1; PC 267,1} Information	co-creator /Reliability/060
Contemporary of	Peire d'Alvernhe {PC 323} Person
Condition	Unattested Text	{128,a} now attributed to {129}
Condition	Unidentified Text	Bec Anthol Asserted by Anthologie des troubadours {} Information
Also known as	Bernart Marti {PC 63} Person	/Reliability/030 Roncaglia
Also known as	Eble d'Ussel {PC 129} Person	/Reliability/060 Zenker, Jeanroy; plausible for Almqvist 1951:65; PC p112 I cannot delete him; but NOT Appel /000 Asserted by Anthology (2) of the Troubadours {} Information Asserted by Die provenzalischen Tenzone {} Information
Abbreviation, RIALTO	Eble de Saignas Text
Abbreviation, Frank	N/A Text
Abbreviation, DOM	EbSaign Text
Abbreviation, BEdT	EblSaign^ Text

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